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  • 1.  Ah crud... 4104gl config help (hot swaped module)

    Posted Apr 05, 2006 12:01 PM
    Okay...so, we removed a 10/100 ethernet module from slot D, and placed a 10/100/1000 in slot C (the 10/100 was an interrim fix while our dead 10/100/1000 was replaced). Now I'm trying to remove the "untagged d1-d24" from VLAN 1 but its not recognizing the interface. how can i get the config cleaned up?

    thanks


  • 2.  RE: Ah crud... 4104gl config help (hot swaped module)

    Posted Apr 05, 2006 01:26 PM
    Modules are hot-swappable with identical modules. Hot-insert, although it may work to a degree, is neither supported nor recommended. You need to boot the switch with the different module in place.

    BTDTGTTS


  • 3.  RE: Ah crud... 4104gl config help (hot swaped module)

    Posted Apr 05, 2006 02:05 PM
    Right,

    The original module was 10/100/1000 in slot B
    we 'replaced' it with 10/100 in slot D to avoid any conflicts

    Now that the replaced 10/100/1000 came in, we took out slot D and inserted the B slot as before...

    But in the config, I still see "Untagged d1-d24"




  • 4.  RE: Ah crud... 4104gl config help (hot swaped module)

    Posted Apr 05, 2006 03:08 PM
    I understood you in the first place. I only mentioned hot-swap because you have it in your title even though what you did was not hot-swap.

    I assumed that you hot-plugged/unplugged the different module to the different slot without rebooting since you did not mention booting.

    The switch needs to have the same config it booted with. You can hot-unplug a module and replace it with an identical module. This is by design. Anything else is unsupported. I've been there... even took it all the way up to the Division Lab.


  • 5.  RE: Ah crud... 4104gl config help (hot swaped module)

    Posted Apr 07, 2006 08:34 AM
    I dug up the reply I got from the lab.
    <QUOTE>
    I discussed this with a senior engineer here in the Network support Center and he stated that the chassis would need to be rebooted for the module to be fully initialized. â Hot swappableâ means you can swap a module of like kind into the same slot and the chassis will expect and understand how to handle it. It appears you were correct in that when you perform a â Hot insertâ , the module may not fully be understood. The reason being that when the chassis is initialized it locks in information specific to the modules (or lack thereof) in each slot. And that information will not fully change unless it is rebooted.
    </QUOTE>

    HTH


  • 6.  RE: Ah crud... 4104gl config help (hot swaped module)

    Posted Apr 10, 2006 01:19 PM
    Well it doesnt seem "hot swap" at all - because this bit us today.

    Sure, the module went in, and came online, but sure enough, none of the OTHER modules could talk to it. The replacement module we placed in slot B was a 10/100/1000...

    It seems HP has greatly misconstrued the potential for' hot swap'

    luckily a simple reboot fixed it, but what would we have done if we had a high availablity network?!


  • 7.  RE: Ah crud... 4104gl config help (hot swaped module)

    Posted Apr 10, 2006 09:40 PM
    I think that provided "hot swappability" is enough for this type of equipment. Imagine what does it mean to discover new Ethernet module. This will lead to a buffer and memory (and other resources) reallocation.
    Do not use one 4100gl in high availability scenarios (no redundant Control Module, active backplane) Use two and high availability protocols to ensure smooth failover.


  • 8.  RE: Ah crud... 4104gl config help (hot swaped module)

    Posted Apr 11, 2006 03:58 AM
    >>It seems HP has greatly misconstrued the potential for' hot swap'

    http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=misconstrue

    Well... at least one dictionary defines it such that the inference is yours and not HP's.

    You may have misconstrued what HP purports "hot swap" to be.


  • 9.  RE: Ah crud... 4104gl config help (hot swaped module)

    Posted Apr 11, 2006 06:03 AM
    Perhaps, Les :-)