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  • 1.  AVB enabled devices is not working

    Posted Jan 02, 2023 06:06 PM

    Aruba 6300M AOS-CX 10.11

    [Audio Video Bridging - Wikipedia]

    AVB devices report "Switch port is not 802.1AS capable».

    Please advise on how to enable.

    Steinar



  • 2.  RE: AVB enabled devices is not working

    Posted Jan 02, 2023 06:18 PM
    I doubt if AVB is supported on 6300s.

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  • 3.  RE: AVB enabled devices is not working

    Posted Jan 02, 2023 06:22 PM

    Isn't everything possible?

    Steinar


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  • 4.  RE: AVB enabled devices is not working

    Posted Jan 03, 2023 04:07 AM
    And, what about Dante ? [Dante (networking) - Wikipedia]
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  • 5.  RE: AVB enabled devices is not working

    Posted Jan 03, 2023 05:50 AM
    One good resource to know what is supported or not is the feature navigator:
    https://feature-navigator.arubanetworks.com/
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  • 6.  RE: AVB enabled devices is not working

    Posted Jan 03, 2023 08:19 AM
    We run Dante audio over 6200 and 6300 switches all the time without any issues.  The biggest thing to keep in mind is that you need to make sure IGMP is setup and working correctly.  I've not worked with PTP at all.  I know Dante supports it but doesn't require it.
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  • 7.  RE: AVB enabled devices is not working

    Posted Jan 03, 2023 08:25 AM
    Is this it?: make sure IGMP is setup and working correctly

    vlan 1025
    name AV -Dante
    ip igmp snooping enable

    ??

    please elaborate som more, 
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  • 8.  RE: AVB enabled devices is not working

    Posted Jan 03, 2023 08:43 AM
    It's a little more than that but not much.  The command you listed enables L2 IGMP snooping but you also need to get it setup on L3.  Here's the config I run:

    vlan 14
    name DANTE_PRIMARY
    description DANTE_PRIMARY
    ip igmp snooping enable
interface vlan 14
    ip address 192.168.14.254/24
    ip igmp enable​
    Note that all of your switches should have an IP on the same subnet as your devices in order for the querier to function properly.  Once that's all setup you can run 
    show ip igmp​
    to verify that everything is working.  You should get output similar to 
    # show ip igmp

VRF Name   : default
Interface  : vlan14
IGMP Configured Version  : 3
IGMP Operating Version   : 3
Querier State              : Querier
Querier IP [this switch]   : 192.168.14.254
Querier Uptime             : 75d 4h 0m
Querier Expiration Time    : 0m 45s
IGMP Snoop Enabled on VLAN : True

Active Group Address   Vers Mode Uptime    Expires
---------------------- ---- ---- --------- ---------
224.0.1.129            3    EXC  25d 10h 20 3m 10s
239.192.0.64           2         25d 10h 20 3m 4s
239.254.50.123         2         25d 10h 20 3m 4s
239.255.255.250        3    EXC  25d 10h 20 3m 4s
239.255.255.255        3    EXC  25d 10h 20 3m 7s
​

    When you first set it up the Querier state will be different while it goes through the querier election process but once that's done exactly ONE of you switches should have the Querier State of 'Querier' while the others should be 'Non-Querier'.  All of the switches should list the same Querier IP and it should match the IP address of which ever switch was elected as the Querier.  Also make sure that 'IGMP Snoop Enabled on VLAN' is 'True' and that you're seeing Active Group Addresses (assuming you have devices already connected to the network)


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  • 9.  RE: AVB enabled devices is not working

    Posted Jan 03, 2023 08:58 AM
    marvelous
    Steinar
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  • 10.  RE: AVB enabled devices is not working

    Posted Mar 12, 2024 04:29 AM

    Hi davidwk could you give us any advice about this topic? maybe to show us the right setup about igmp and any other advice for Dante audio? We have an issue with audio... when they send video and audio simultaneously, it doesnt work.

    thank you so much


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  • 11.  RE: AVB enabled devices is not working

    Posted Mar 12, 2024 08:19 AM
    Edited by DK-9179a3 Mar 12, 2024 08:20 AM

    There's not a lot to it other than was I posted previously.  Do you have IGMP enabled like I recommended?  Could you post the output of show ip igmp from every switch the traffic traverses?  When you say "it doesn't work"  what do you mean?  Does the stream not reach its destination at all?  Does it get there but audio and video are out of sync?  Is it jittery or distorted?

    I've not done any video in this setup but I know it's been discussed.  My guess is that to make video and audio work reliably you'll need full AVB support (or, at a minumum, PTP).  That will likely require a 6300 running 10.13 or newer firmware but that's just a guess.


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  • 12.  RE: AVB enabled devices is not working

    Posted Mar 12, 2024 12:29 PM

    Hi David, Sure, this is the output of the show ip igmp

    We have 6200F switches with the following configuration, but we see.. only audio works fine, only video works fine, but both... don't work, my guess is same as you... maybe its needed the full AVB support with other kind of switches, however if you see anything weird or any advice in the configuration we'd really appreciate.

    vlan 1717

    ip igmp snooping enable

    ip igmp snooping version 2

    interface vlan 1717

    ip igmp enable

    ip igmp querier

    Per each port: 

    no rate-limit broadcast

    no rate-limit unknown-unicast

    no rate-limit multicast

    ip igmp snooping fastleave vlan 1717

    no energy-efficient-ethernet

    qos trust none

    qos dscp 56

    S6200-SW# show ip igmp

    VRF Name   : default
    Interface  : vlan1717
    IGMP Configured Version  : 3
    IGMP Operating Version   : 2
    Querier State              : Non-Querier
    Querier IP                 : 10.197.140.1
    Querier Uptime             : 22m 7s
    Querier Expiration Time    : 2m 54s
    IGMP Snoop Enabled on VLAN : True

    Active Group Address   Vers Mode Uptime    Expires
    ---------------------- ---- ---- --------- ---------
    224.0.1.129            2         26m 20s   3m 12s
    224.1.2.3              2         7m 21s    0m 59s
    224.2.127.254          2         26m 19s   3m 5s
    225.1.0.0              2         18h 47m   4m 20s
    225.1.0.1              2         18h 47m   4m 20s
    226.1.0.0              2         26m 20s   3m 14s
    226.2.0.0              2         18h 47m   4m 20s
    228.1.0.0              2         26m 20s   3m 13s
    234.32.3.47            2         18h 41m   3m 21s
    234.32.3.58            2         18h 47m   3m 12s
    234.32.3.120           2         18h 44m   3m 5s
    234.32.3.128           2         2h 42m    3m 56s
    234.32.3.135           2         18h 40m   3m 16s
    234.32.4.5             2         18h 41m   3m 30s
    234.32.5.37            2         18h 45m   3m 50s
    234.32.5.47            2         18h 47m   4m 5s
    234.32.128.217         2         18h 39m   3m 26s
    234.32.128.242         2         11h 47m   3m 51s
    234.32.128.247         2         18h 42m   4m 2s
    234.32.129.8           2         18h 46m   3m 53s
    234.32.129.30          2         18h 42m   3m 34s
    234.32.129.31          2         18h 41m   4m 6s
    234.32.129.43          2         10m 57s   2m 56s
    234.32.129.51          2         31m 26s   3m 9s
    234.32.129.52          2         5m 37s    1m 12s
    234.32.129.63          2         2h 42m    3m 55s
    234.32.129.97          2         2h 43m    3m 15s
    234.32.129.103         2         18h 40m   3m 16s
    234.32.129.110         2         18h 44m   1m 36s
    234.32.129.141         2         18h 47m   4m 19s
    234.32.129.150         2         18h 44m   3m 9s
    234.32.129.178         2         18h 46m   3m 52s
    234.32.129.204         2         18h 43m   4m 4s
    234.32.129.210         2         18h 40m   3m 51s
    234.32.192.9           2         36m 7s    3m 59s
    234.32.192.30          2         18h 42m   4m 5s
    234.32.192.36          2         18h 47m   4m 8s
    234.32.192.54          2         18h 42m   3m 30s
    234.32.192.78          2         18h 45m   3m 14s
    234.32.192.82          2         18h 47m   3m 43s
    234.32.192.84          2         9m 32s    3m 28s
    234.32.192.87          2         18h 48m   2m 28s
    234.32.192.110         2         18h 43m   2m 51s
    234.32.192.125         2         18h 47m   3m 21s
    234.32.192.128         2         18h 46m   3m 29s
    234.48.3.47            2         18h 38m   2m 45s
    234.48.3.58            2         18h 43m   2m 36s
    234.48.3.120           2         18h 48m   2m 39s
    234.48.3.128           2         18h 43m   3m 1s
    234.48.3.135           2         18h 44m   2m 40s
    234.48.4.5             2         18h 42m   2m 54s
    234.48.5.37            2         18h 46m   3m 13s
    234.48.5.47            2         18h 43m   2m 30s
    234.48.128.217         2         18h 40m   2m 50s
    234.48.128.242         2         18h 44m   3m 15s
    234.48.128.247         2         18h 47m   3m 26s
    234.48.129.8           2         18h 47m   3m 19s
    234.48.129.30          2         18h 47m   2m 58s
    234.48.129.31          2         6m 18s    3m 30s
    234.48.129.43          2         3m 57s    3m 26s
    234.48.129.51          2         18h 44m   2m 37s
    234.48.129.52          2         12m 15s   1m 28s
    234.48.129.63          2         18h 46m   3m 14s
    234.48.129.97          2         18h 47m   3m 15s
    234.48.129.103         2         18h 44m   2m 40s
    234.48.129.110         2         18h 43m   3m 15s
    234.48.129.141         2         18h 48m   3m 43s
    234.48.129.150         2         18h 45m   2m 6s
    234.48.129.164         2         2m 54s    1m 25s
    234.48.129.178         2         18h 47m   3m 16s
    234.48.129.204         2         18h 43m   3m 28s
    234.48.129.210         2         18h 44m   3m 15s
    234.48.192.9           2         36m 43s   3m 20s
    234.48.192.30          2         18h 42m   3m 29s
    234.48.192.36          2         18h 48m   3m 32s
    234.48.192.54          2         5m 16s    3m 30s
    234.48.192.78          2         18h 45m   3m 13s
    234.48.192.82          2         18h 48m   3m 44s
    234.48.192.84          2         18h 47m   3m 29s
    234.48.192.87          2         18h 48m   2m 33s
    234.48.192.110         2         18h 43m   2m 51s
    234.48.192.125         2         18h 43m   2m 30s
    234.48.192.128         2         18h 46m   3m 29s
    234.64.3.47            2         18h 44m   1m 50s
    234.64.3.58            2         18h 42m   2m 53s
    234.64.3.120           2         18h 42m   2m 54s
    234.64.3.128           2         18h 43m   2m 34s
    234.64.3.135           2         18h 47m   2m 56s
    234.64.4.5             2         18h 47m   2m 52s
    234.64.5.37            2         18h 43m   2m 57s
    234.64.5.47            2         10m 8s    2m 25s
    234.64.128.217         2         18h 43m   3m 0s
    234.64.128.242         2         18h 44m   3m 15s
    234.64.128.247         2         18h 47m   3m 26s
    234.64.129.8           2         18h 47m   1m 48s
    234.64.129.30          2         18h 47m   2m 58s
    234.64.129.31          2         5m 16s    3m 30s
    234.64.129.43          2         1m 50s    3m 27s
    234.64.129.51          2         18h 44m   1m 48s
    234.64.129.63          2         10m 12s   2m 34s
    234.64.129.97          2         18h 40m   2m 59s
    234.64.129.103         2         18h 41m   2m 40s
    234.64.129.110         2         18h 44m   2m 33s
    234.64.129.141         2         18h 48m   3m 43s
    234.64.129.150         2         18h 45m   2m 6s
    234.64.129.178         2         18h 47m   3m 16s
    234.64.129.204         2         18h 43m   3m 28s
    234.64.129.210         2         18h 44m   3m 15s
    234.64.192.9           2         36m 38s   3m 40s
    234.64.192.30          2         18h 44m   3m 30s
    234.64.192.36          2         18h 48m   3m 32s
    234.64.192.54          2         6m 1s     3m 30s
    234.64.192.78          2         18h 47m   3m 14s
    234.64.192.82          2         2h 29m    3m 24s
    234.64.192.84          2         18h 41m   1m 44s
    234.64.192.87          2         18h 48m   2m 28s
    234.64.192.110         2         18h 44m   2m 25s
    234.64.192.125         2         18h 48m   2m 36s
    234.64.192.128         2         18h 46m   3m 29s
    234.96.3.47            2         18h 44m   2m 26s
    234.96.3.58            2         52m 48s   2m 53s
    234.96.3.120           2         18h 42m   2m 54s
    234.96.3.128           2         18h 43m   1m 50s
    234.96.3.135           2         18h 47m   2m 56s
    234.96.4.5             2         18h 47m   2m 52s
    234.96.5.37            2         18h 43m   2m 57s
    234.96.5.47            2         12m 11s   2m 34s
    234.96.128.217         2         18h 43m   3m 0s
    234.96.128.242         2         18h 44m   3m 15s
    234.96.128.247         2         18h 42m   3m 26s
    234.96.129.8           2         18h 47m   1m 48s
    234.96.129.30          2         18h 43m   2m 58s
    234.96.129.31          2         6m 2s     3m 30s
    234.96.129.51          2         18h 44m   1m 48s
    234.96.129.63          2         18h 47m   2m 52s
    234.96.129.97          2         18h 43m   2m 55s
    234.96.129.103         2         18h 41m   2m 40s
    234.96.129.110         2         18h 44m   2m 31s
    234.96.129.141         2         18h 48m   3m 43s
    234.96.129.150         2         18h 45m   2m 11s
    234.96.129.164         2         5m 5s     2m 30s
    234.96.129.178         2         18h 47m   3m 16s
    234.96.129.204         2         18h 43m   2m 29s
    234.96.129.210         2         18h 44m   3m 15s
    234.96.192.9           2         36m 47s   3m 40s
    234.96.192.30          2         18h 44m   3m 30s
    234.96.192.36          2         18h 48m   3m 32s
    234.96.192.54          2         18h 43m   3m 26s
    234.96.192.78          2         18h 45m   3m 14s
    234.96.192.82          2         2h 39m    3m 24s
    234.96.192.84          2         18h 46m   1m 44s
    234.96.192.87          2         18h 48m   2m 28s
    234.96.192.110         2         18h 44m   2m 31s
    234.96.192.125         2         26m 47s   2m 36s
    234.96.192.128         2         18h 48m   3m 33s
    234.112.3.47           2         18h 44m   2m 29s
    234.112.3.58           2         18h 42m   2m 53s
    234.112.3.120          2         18h 42m   2m 54s
    234.112.3.128          2         18h 47m   2m 28s
    234.112.3.135          2         18h 47m   2m 56s
    234.112.4.5            2         18h 47m   2m 52s
    234.112.5.37           2         18h 43m   2m 57s
    234.112.5.47           2         12m 10s   1m 56s
    234.112.128.217        2         18h 43m   3m 0s
    234.112.128.242        2         18h 44m   3m 15s
    234.112.128.247        2         18h 42m   3m 26s
    234.112.129.8          2         18h 47m   2m 36s
    234.112.129.30         2         18h 43m   2m 58s
    234.112.129.31         2         18h 44m   3m 30s
    234.112.129.51         2         18h 44m   1m 48s
    234.112.129.52         2         3m 57s    3m 34s
    234.112.129.63         2         18h 41m   2m 52s
    234.112.129.97         2         18h 40m   2m 59s
    234.112.129.103        2         18h 44m   2m 40s
    234.112.129.110        2         18h 44m   2m 37s
    234.112.129.141        2         18h 48m   3m 43s
    234.112.129.150        2         18h 45m   2m 6s
    234.112.129.164        2         48m 52s   2m 31s
    234.112.129.178        2         18h 47m   3m 16s
    234.112.129.204        2         18h 43m   3m 28s
    234.112.129.210        2         18h 40m   3m 15s
    234.112.192.9          2         36m 43s   3m 40s
    234.112.192.30         2         18h 44m   3m 30s
    234.112.192.36         2         18h 48m   3m 32s
    234.112.192.54         2         5m 16s    3m 30s
    234.112.192.78         2         18h 47m   3m 14s
    234.112.192.82         2         18h 44m   3m 24s
    234.112.192.84         2         18h 46m   2m 30s
    234.112.192.87         2         18h 48m   2m 27s
    234.112.192.110        2         18h 44m   2m 25s
    234.112.192.125        2         26m 48s   2m 35s
    234.112.192.128        2         18h 46m   3m 28s
    234.200.200.1          2         26m 57s   2m 36s
    239.255.254.253        2         26m 57s   2m 33s
    239.255.255.250        2         18h 48m   3m 43s
    239.255.255.255        2         26m 57s   2m 36s


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  • 13.  RE: AVB enabled devices is not working

    Posted Mar 12, 2024 02:52 PM

    Are you using Dante AV to transfer audio and video? If you are transfering audio as Dante and video as another format (like NDI) I think there is no way to sync  those without external software.

    You have checked that uplinks to core are not utilized no more that 85% of link speed? 

    Two recommendations for config which may help:

    1. Do not remark all packets to dscp 56 (no qos dscp 56)
    2. Trust dscp (qos trust dscp) Remember to trust it in all network gear.



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    Jori Luoto
    AV-IT Specialist
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  • 14.  RE: AVB enabled devices is not working

    Posted Jan 03, 2023 04:28 AM
    Hi Steinar,

    6300M supports following PTP profiles:
    There is no 802.1AS so it's not supported.

    I am personally not familiar with Dante, but Wikipedia says the following: "Dante is a combination of software, hardware, and network protocols that delivers uncompressed, multi-channel, low-latency digital audio over a standard Ethernet network using Layer 3 IP packets."
    Since it uses standard Ethernet and IP and unlike gPTP (802.1AS) does not require support from the switch, it should work without issues. You probably need to tweak QoS to prioritise Dante's traffic to avoid delay and jitter, but that's something that you need to do on all Ethernet/IP network devices when you deal with audio/video, it is not something exclusive to Aruba :)

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    Ivan Bondar
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  • 15.  RE: AVB enabled devices is not working

    Posted Jan 05, 2023 07:43 AM

    If I remember right, AVB is coming to 6300M in fw 10.12 as well as PTP boundary clock (which might make life more easy when using AES67/Dante)



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  • 16.  RE: AVB enabled devices is not working

    Posted Dec 14, 2023 06:52 PM
    Edited by Steinar Grande Dec 14, 2023 07:03 PM

    Is this resolved in hardware now !

    And has the switch received the Avnu Alliance Milan Advanced Certification ?



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  • 17.  RE: AVB enabled devices is not working

    Posted Dec 15, 2023 05:58 AM

    AVB support is intended (no commitment) for 10.13.1000. For more information please reach out to your HPE Aruba sales representative.


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  • 18.  RE: AVB enabled devices is not working

    Posted Dec 15, 2023 06:11 AM

    But only on the model : S0E91A Then ?

     




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  • 19.  RE: AVB enabled devices is not working
    Best Answer

    Posted Feb 02, 2024 08:14 AM
    Edited by Steinar Grande Feb 02, 2024 08:53 AM

    The 10.13.1000 Enhancements in Release Notes state:

    Audio-Video Bridging (AVB) defines features, options, configurations, defaults, protocols,
    and procedures of bridges, stations, and Local Area Networks (LANs) that are necessary to
    build networks that are capable of transporting time-sensitive audio and/or video data
    streams.

    AVB operates on the concept of stream reservation. Stream Reservation Protocol
    (SRP) is an amendment to the IEEE 802.1Q standard (standardized separately as 802.1Qat)
    to provide end-to-end management of resource reservations for data streams requiring
    guaranteed Quality of Service in Local Area Networks.


    AVB is supported only on the Aruba 6300 and 8360 Switch Series:

    JL717C, HPE Aruba Networking 8360-32Y4C v2 32-port 25G SFP/SFP+/SFP28 4 Sec 4-port 100G QSFP+/QSFP28 Switch (JL717C)

    JL718C, HPE Aruba Networking 8360-16Y2C v2 16-port 25G SFP/SFP+/SFP28 2-port 100G QSFP+/QSFP28 Switch (JL718C)

    JL721C, HPE Aruba Networking 8360-12C  v2 12-port 100G QSFP+/QSFP28 Switch ( JL721C)

    JL722C, HPE Aruba Networking 8360-24XF2C v2 24-port 10G SFP/SFP+ 2-port 100G QSFP+/QSFP28 Switch (JL722C)

    R8S89A, (HPE Aruba Networking 6300M 24p HPE Smart Rate 1G/2.5G/5G/10G Class6 PoE and 2p 50G and 2p 25G Switch (R8S89A))

    R8S90A. (HPE Aruba Networking 6300M 48p HPE Smart Rate 1G/2.5G/5G Class8 PoE and 2p 50G and 2p 25G Switch (R8S90A)

    But: S0E91A HPE Aruba Networking CX 6300M 48p SR10 PTP/AVB Class8 PoE 4p 100G MACsec Switch (S0E91A)

    is  mentioned in Realese form elsewhere. (Products Supported)

    And , 

    S0X44A, HPE Aruba Networking 6300M 48p SR10 1G/2.5G/5G/10G PTP/AVB Class8 PoE 4p 100G MACsec TAA Switch



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