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IAP-325 in a mesh - Mesh Point nodes have access to local network only

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  • 1.  IAP-325 in a mesh - Mesh Point nodes have access to local network only

    Posted Sep 23, 2024 02:43 AM

    Hello All,

    I have encountered an odd issue with my setup of three IAP-325 APs in a mesh. I have read a variety of documentation, and forum posts, but have not been able to find a solution, and I'm hoping that someone can enlighten me as to what I'm missing and restore my sanity.

    As I said, I have three IAP-325 APs in a mesh. Right now, I just want to have a bare configuration, which allows a client to connect to any mesh node, and access local network and internet, without limitation. 

    Here's what I'm encountering:

    • When a client is connected to the mesh Portal node, the client can access the all local network resources, as well as access the internet. The client can also be accessed by other network devices. No issues.
    • When a client is connected to a node in the role of a Point node, it can access (and be accessed from) the local network. It can ping the router. The router can ping the client as well. However, these clients don't have access to the internet. 
    • Running a packet capture on the router while connected to a Point node and pinging an external resource, I see the packets coming out to the external network, I can see the reply packets coming in and leaving internal interface bound for the client connected to the Point, but they never get there.
    • If I telnet to that point node, I also can ONLY ping internal resources, including the gateway, but not past the gateway.
    • No issues if the APs are wired in (i.e. all Portal nodes)

    A few quick facts:

    • Running version 8.7.0.
    • No VLANs configured.
    • Network is flat, with one gateway, which is the router.
    • DHCP, DNS is provided by the router.
    • A single SSID is used (enhanced SSID is turned off)
    • Mesh seems to be formed fine.
    • I have tried this on a few different versions (with factory resets in between), and have observed the same behavior across all:
      • ArubaInstant_Hercules_6.5.4.27_88283
      • ArubaInstant_Hercules_8.10.0.13_90226
      • ArubaInstant_Hercules_8.7.1.0_77203
    • One network, setup for Employee usage, with access set to Unrestricted

    Current configuration is posted below. 

    version 8.7.1.0-8.7.1
    virtual-controller-country CA
    virtual-controller-key <<REDACTED>>
    name instant-CA:7A:76
    terminal-access
    telnet-server
    clock timezone none 00 00
    rf-band all
    
    allow-new-aps
    
    allowed-ap a8:bd:27:ca:7a:76
    allowed-ap a8:bd:27:ca:63:90
    allowed-ap 34:fc:b9:cf:16:26
    
    
    
    arm
     wide-bands 5ghz
     80mhz-support
     min-tx-power 18
     max-tx-power 127
     band-steering-mode prefer-5ghz
     air-time-fairness-mode default-access
     client-aware
     scanning
    
    
    syslog-level warn ap-debug 
    syslog-level warn network 
    syslog-level warn security 
    syslog-level warn system 
    syslog-level warn user 
    syslog-level warn user-debug 
    syslog-level warn wireless 
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    mgmt-user admin <<REDACTED>>
    
    
    
    wlan access-rule default_wired_port_profile
     index 0
     rule any any match any any any permit
    
    wlan access-rule wired-SetMeUp
     index 1
     rule masterip 0.0.0.0 match tcp 80 80 permit
     rule masterip 0.0.0.0 match tcp 4343 4343 permit
     rule any any match udp 67 68 permit
     rule any any match udp 53 53 permit
    
    wlan access-rule MyNetwork
     index 2
     rule any any match any any any permit
    
    inbound-firewall
     rule any any any any match tcp 22 22 permit
    
    wlan ssid-profile MyNetwork
     enable
     index 0
     type employee
     essid <<REDACTED>>
     wpa-passphrase <<REDACTED>>
     opmode wpa2-psk-aes
     max-authentication-failures 0
     vlan 1
     rf-band all
     captive-portal disable
     dtim-period 1
     broadcast-filter arp
     dmo-channel-utilization-threshold 90
     local-probe-req-thresh 0
     max-clients-threshold 64
    
    auth-survivability cache-time-out 24
    
    
    
    
    
    wlan external-captive-portal
     server localhost
     port 80
     url "/"
     auth-text "Authenticated"
     auto-whitelist-disable
     https
    
    
    blacklist-time 3600
    auth-failure-blacklist-time 3600
    
    
    ids
     wireless-containment none
    
    
    wired-port-profile wired-SetMeUp
     switchport-mode access
     allowed-vlan all
     native-vlan guest
     no shutdown
     access-rule-name wired-SetMeUp
     speed auto
     duplex auto
     no poe
     type guest
     captive-portal disable
     no dot1x
    
    wired-port-profile default_wired_port_profile
     switchport-mode trunk
     allowed-vlan all
     native-vlan 1
     shutdown
     access-rule-name default_wired_port_profile
     speed auto
     duplex full
     no poe
     type employee
     captive-portal disable
     no dot1x
    
    
    enet0-port-profile default_wired_port_profile
    
    uplink
     preemption
     enforce none
     failover-internet-pkt-lost-cnt 10
     failover-internet-pkt-send-freq 30
     failover-vpn-timeout 180
    
    
    
    airgroup
     disable
    
    airgroupservice airplay
     disable
     description AirPlay
    
    airgroupservice airprint
     disable
     description AirPrint
    

    I appreciate any assistance/direction anyone can provide to help me get external network access to my client from any node. 

    Many thanks!



  • 2.  RE: IAP-325 in a mesh - Mesh Point nodes have access to local network only

    Posted Sep 23, 2024 10:21 AM

    Have you configured E0 as downlink (bridging) on the point APs?



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    Carson Hulcher, ACEX#110
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  • 3.  RE: IAP-325 in a mesh - Mesh Point nodes have access to local network only

    Posted Sep 23, 2024 10:39 AM

    Hello, 

    I had tried enabled bridging on the point APs before as part of troubleshooting, but this did not help. 

    Not currently configured as bridged. I will also note that on the point APs, I only have a connection on Eth0 on both to supply power. No data (connected to a power injector)




  • 4.  RE: IAP-325 in a mesh - Mesh Point nodes have access to local network only

    Posted Sep 23, 2024 10:54 AM

    What VLAN is set as native for the downlink to the portal?



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    Carson Hulcher, ACEX#110
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  • 5.  RE: IAP-325 in a mesh - Mesh Point nodes have access to local network only

    Posted Sep 23, 2024 11:14 AM
    Edited by Arubnoob Sep 23, 2024 11:15 AM

    VLAN configuration has not been implemented/changed anywhere on the network - it is all set to default on the APs.

    So:

    • On the Network definition, clients are assigned a VLAN of 1
    • On the AP configuration, the Uplink management VLAN is 0
    • Uplink switch native VLAN is unconfigured (so defaulting to 1)

     

    That being said, not sure how this could be a VLAN issue....I would assume that if it were, then the point-node connected clients would have issues accessing not just the external network, but any other device connected to the gateway on the same subnet (however, there is no issue with accessing hosts on the same subnet)




  • 6.  RE: IAP-325 in a mesh - Mesh Point nodes have access to local network only

    Posted Sep 23, 2024 11:32 AM

    Sorry, was asking for the VLAN information from the switch/router side.  What is the native VLAN set to for the downlink from the wired side to the portal?

    Honestly, I've not seen this kind of failure, as described, before.  We can see a similar failure when the VLAN isn't getting handled properly between the portal and points but shouldn't see this when running a truly flat and untagged network.



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    Carson Hulcher, ACEX#110
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  • 7.  RE: IAP-325 in a mesh - Mesh Point nodes have access to local network only

    Posted Sep 23, 2024 12:17 PM

    Thank you for clarifying. Native VLAN on the router (which the portal node is connected to directly) is default (i.e. VLAN 1). 

    I also tried with a different (very basic consumer class) router, but same behavior. It's as though the portal node does not know how to traffic to the point nodes, only where the gateway is the origin - I'm wondering if it has something to do with the ARP tables.

    I welcome any ideas. I have a few of the APs, and tried different units, and same issue. I can't seem to wrap my head around this.




  • 8.  RE: IAP-325 in a mesh - Mesh Point nodes have access to local network only

    Posted Sep 23, 2024 03:28 PM

    Can you get a packet capture on the uplink from the portal and validate that the return traffic is reaching the portal AP?



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    Carson Hulcher, ACEX#110
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  • 9.  RE: IAP-325 in a mesh - Mesh Point nodes have access to local network only

    Posted Sep 23, 2024 07:07 PM

    You can refer to this technote that covers most aspect of mesh network with Aruba Instant. It covers your scenario too.



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  • 10.  RE: IAP-325 in a mesh - Mesh Point nodes have access to local network only

    Posted Sep 23, 2024 08:25 PM

    Thank you for sharing - some useful infromation/exampls compiled in the document your linked to. With it, I was able to confirm, based on the show datapath bridge command that the MAC of the client device is captured properly in those tables, and mapped to the correct interfaces.




  • 11.  RE: IAP-325 in a mesh - Mesh Point nodes have access to local network only

    Posted Sep 23, 2024 07:19 PM

    I have done a packet capture, at both the portal and the point node using debug pkt. 

    When the client is connected to the point, I see the outgoing packets on both the point and the portal, as well as on the router. I then see the ping reply on the return path received by the router, then forwarded to the interface where the portal AP is configured. However, on the portal AP, I do not see the reply being received by neither the portal nor the point. It's as thought the portal is ignoring.

    When the client is connected to the portal node, I the same on the outgoing path, and I do see the packet response on the AP, before it gets back to the client.

    The packet capture on the router, in both cases, appears the same.




  • 12.  RE: IAP-325 in a mesh - Mesh Point nodes have access to local network only

    Posted Sep 23, 2024 07:32 PM

    Go ahead and configure the uplink switch native VLAN to 1 rather than blank/0 in the system configuration.



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    Carson Hulcher, ACEX#110
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  • 13.  RE: IAP-325 in a mesh - Mesh Point nodes have access to local network only

    Posted Sep 23, 2024 08:38 PM

    Set VLAN to 1, but still no change. Here's a datapath bridge output, just in case I'm missing something obvious.

    A quick legend of devices:

    a8:bd:27:ca:63:90 -- Point node  

    34:fc:b9:cf:16:26 -- Portal node

    00:1A:8C:47:3E:60  -- the gateway/router

    A8:64:F1:CE:37:09 -- the wireless client




  • 14.  RE: IAP-325 in a mesh - Mesh Point nodes have access to local network only

    Posted Sep 24, 2024 02:40 PM

    I can't currently mirror your exact setup, but with AP-303H running IAP 8.12.0.2 and a simple VC based mesh cluster, I'm not seeing the issue.

    If you haven't opened a case with TAC on this, I'd recommend doing so.



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    Carson Hulcher, ACEX#110
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  • 15.  RE: IAP-325 in a mesh - Mesh Point nodes have access to local network only

    Posted Sep 24, 2024 04:25 PM

    I guess I will have to take that route since there's no other ideas. Thanks for your assistance so far. 

    I do find this issue to be odd, but still convinced there's something basic I'm overlooking - I just can't seem to figure out what it might be.   




  • 16.  RE: IAP-325 in a mesh - Mesh Point nodes have access to local network only

    Posted Sep 24, 2024 11:12 AM

    great guy! i love it