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  • 1.  Multi chassis lag speed issues

    Posted Oct 08, 2024 10:49 AM

    Hi all,
    I think I have a problem with a multi chassis lag created on a pair of 8100 in vsx mode.
    Let me explain: 

    I have a pair of 8100s connected in vsx that I want to connect to an HPE 7503

    I create my lag on 8100:

    vsxa:
    interface lag 100 multi-chassis
    description ssfc-irf-lag
    no shutdown
    no routing
    vlan trunk native 1
    vlan trunk allowed all
    lacp mode active
    interface 1/1/1
    description ssfc-irf-lag
    no shutdown
    mtu 9100
    lag 100
    vsx b:
    interface lag 100 multi-chassis
    description ssfc-irf-lag
    no shutdown
    no routing
    vlan trunk native 1
    vlan trunk allowed all
    lacp mode active
    interface 1/1/1
    description ssfc-irf-lag
    no shutdown
    mtu 9100
    lag 100
    hpe 7500:
    interface Bridge-Aggregation200
    description vsx
    port link-type trunk
    port trunk permit vlan all
    link-aggregation mode dynamic
    dhcp snooping trust
    interface Ten-GigabitEthernet1/0/0/5
    port link-mode bridge
    description vsx
    port link-type trunk
    port trunk permit vlan all
    port link-aggregation group 200
    interface Ten-GigabitEthernet1/1/0/5
    port link-mode bridge
    description vsx
    port link-type trunk
    port trunk permit vlan all
    port link-aggregation group 200

    here's what the various devices see:

    7503
    display interface Bridge-Aggregation 200 brief
    Brief information on interfaces in bridge mode:
    Link: ADM - administratively down; Stby - standby
    Speed: (a) - auto
    Duplex: (a)/A - auto; H - half; F - full
    Type: A - access; T - trunk; H - hybrid
    Interface Link Speed Duplex Type PVID Description
    BAGG200 UP 20G(a) F(a) T 1 vsx
    vsxA:
    show interface brief
    lag100 1 trunk -- yes up -- 10000 ssfc-irf-lag
    vsxB:
    show interface brief
    lag100 1 trunk -- yes up -- 10000 ssfc-irf-lag

    is everything normal? I'm a bit confused.

    tnx

    Pietro



  • 2.  RE: Multi chassis lag speed issues

    Posted Oct 08, 2024 03:42 PM
    Hi! apparently it looks good.

    Looking at Multi-Chsssis LAGs (VSX LAGs) status on a VSX Cluster could be a little bit disorienting at first: each VSX node shows its status plus the status seen by the remote VSX peer.

    Try with this command on the VSX Primary:

    show lacp interface multi-chassis

    And then with the very same command executed on the VSX Secondary (alternatively you can repeat the first on any VSX member by adding "vsx-peer" at the end, which is like executing the command on the other VSX member).

    In any case, the above command will show you the LAG status seen by the VSX member where it is executed, reporting these informations (tables):

    - Local Actor
    - Local Partner
    - Remote Actor
    - Remote Partner

    where Local/Remote are clearly referred to VSX members (Actor is the VSX side and Partner the peer side, in your case the HPE 7503 side).

    What's then the output related to your HPE 7503's LAG?





  • 3.  RE: Multi chassis lag speed issues

    Posted Oct 09, 2024 05:35 AM
    Edited by parnassus Oct 09, 2024 05:35 AM

    As example, let me consider a LAG between a VSX Cluster (VSX LAG with LACP to the VSF Virtual Chassis) and a VSF - a VSF is a "Virtual Chassis" made of two Aruba modular switches - (simple LAG with LACP to VSX Cluster) [*]...then, on both VSX Primary and VSX Secondary, you would have a VSX LAG (MC-LAG) definition like that:

    interface lag 254 multi-chassis
        description Aruba-VSF-Trk1
        no shutdown
        no routing
        vlan trunk native <PVID> <------------ in case you need a tagged native then add the "tag" at the end
        vlan trunk allowed <PVID> + <other-IDs-for-allowing-tagged-VLAN>
        lacp mode active
        loop-protect
        loop-protect vlan <PVID> + <other-IDs-for-allowing-tagged-VLAN>
        exit

    and then, on VSX Primary:

    interface 1/1/29
        description Aruba-VSF-Trk1-1/A1
        no shutdown
        mtu 9198
        flow-control rx
        lag 254
    interface 1/1/30
        description Aruba-VSF-Trk1-2/A1
        no shutdown
        mtu 9198
        flow-control rx
        lag 254

    On VSX Secondary:

    interface 1/1/29
        description Aruba-VSF-Trk1-1/B1
        no shutdown
        mtu 9198
        flow-control rx
        lag 254
    interface 1/1/30
        description Aruba-VSF-Trk1-2/B1
        no shutdown
        mtu 9198
        flow-control rx
        lag 254

    The output of show lacp interfaces multi-chassis on the VSX Primary would then be (redacted):

    State abbreviations :
    A - Active        P - Passive      F - Aggregable I - Individual
    S - Short-timeout L - Long-timeout N - InSync     O - OutofSync
    C - Collecting    D - Distributing 
    X - State m/c expired              E - Default neighbor state

    Actor details of all interfaces:
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Intf       Aggregate  Port    Port     State   System-ID         System   Aggr    
               name       id      Priority                           Priority Key     
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    1/1/29     lag254(mc) 29      1        ALFNCD  02:02:00:xx:xx:xx 65534    254     
    1/1/30     lag254(mc) 30      1        ALFNCD  02:02:00:xx:xx:xx 65534    254     


    Partner details of all interfaces:
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Intf       Aggregate  Partner Port     State   System-ID         System   Aggr    
               name       Port-id Priority                           Priority Key     
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    1/1/29     lag254(mc) NNN     1        ALFNCD  f4:03:43:yy:yy:yy 4159     963     
    1/1/30     lag254(mc) MMM     1        ALFNCD  f4:03:43:yy:yy:yy 4159     963     


    Remote Actor details of all interfaces:
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Intf       Aggregate  Port    Port     State   System-ID         System   Aggr    
               name       id      Priority                           Priority Key     
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    1/1/30     lag254(mc) 1030    1        ALFNCD  02:02:00:xx:xx:xx 65534    254     
    1/1/29     lag254(mc) 1029    1        ALFNCD  02:02:00:xx:xx:xx 65534    254     


    Remote Partner details of all interfaces:
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Intf       Aggregate  Partner Port     State   System-ID         System   Aggr    
               name       Port-id Priority                           Priority Key     
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    1/1/30     lag254(mc) PPP     1        ALFNCD  f4:03:43:yy:yy:yy 4159     963     
    1/1/29     lag254(mc) QQQ     1        ALFNCD  f4:03:43:yy:yy:yy 4159     963

    Please note the ALFNCD status on lag254 as seen on Actor and Remote Actor (VSX members) and they related Partner and Remote Partner peers.

    [*] Same approach if you consider your scenario where a VSX Cluster connects to a single modular Chassis represented by an HPE 7503 (I imply that you aren't in a IRF scarnio, isn'it? in any case - also with IRF - nothing really should change on the approach reported above).

    Cheers.

     




  • 4.  RE: Multi chassis lag speed issues

    Posted Oct 11, 2024 09:38 AM
    ok, everything is clear.
    this way I can control the lacp protocol negotiation.
    What seemed strange to me, but at this point I think it is normal, is the output of "show interfaces brief"
    1/1/1 1 trunk 10G-SR yes up 10000
    lag100 1 trunk -- yes up -- 10000
    on both members of the vsx.
    I expected to see the lag at 20000.
    maybe there is a command to see the aggregate speed of multi-chassis lags?
     
    thanks



  • 5.  RE: Multi chassis lag speed issues

    Posted Oct 11, 2024 10:06 AM

    I believe we see the speed of the aggregated interface that each VSX only owns, not the grand total seen by the VSX Cluster. I have VSX LAGs with 3+3 (3x10 + 3x10) and I see 30Gbps not 60Gbps but I believe it is normal in the case of Multi-Chassis LAGS. Now I've no time but I will go deep to see if, somewhere, the ArubaOS-CX reports the VSX LAG bandwidth grand total.




  • 6.  RE: Multi chassis lag speed issues

    Posted 15 days ago

    Hi @parnassus

    I have the same question. Why doesn't the 'show interface brief' or 'show interface' command display the total speed value? Did you manage to get an answer?

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  • 7.  RE: Multi chassis lag speed issues

    Posted 15 days ago

    Hello @rodrigo_santos, unfortunately I never found a workaround or a reason. But I was referring to the fact that a VSX LAG logical interface (a multi-chassis LAG interface) simply shows the grand total of speeds of its memeber interfaces (e.g. 3x10 on a VSX member) on the prticualar VSX member you're considering, that's it (that is because the dual plane personality of the VSX clustering). I don't believe HPE made changes to let (any related) command to show the total aggregated speed considering the same VSX LAG on both VSX members (e.g. 3x10 + 3x10 = 60 for both VSX members).

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